Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Monday, May 2, 2005
Commissioner
Sharon Braun called the regular meeting of the Wayne Planning Commission to
order at 7:30 p.m., on Monday, May 2, 2005 in the Council Chambers of the Wayne
Municipal Building. Roll call was taken
with the following members present:
Darrell Miller, Kelby Herman, Kyle Nelson, Randy Brenner, Pat Melena,
Don Endicott, Mark Ahmann, Chair Sharon Braun, and Chief Inspector/Planner
George Ellyson. Absent: Vicki Pick.
Motion
made by Commissioner Endicott and seconded by Commissioner Miller to approve
the minutes of Monday, April 4, 2005 as presented. Chair Braun stated the motion and second. Commissioner Miller – approve; Commissioner
Herman – approve; Commissioner Nelson – approve; Commissioner Brenner –
approve; Commissioner Melena – approve; Commissioner Endicott – approve;
Commissioner Ahmann – approve. All were
in favor; motion carried and minutes were approved.
Inspector
Ellyson informed the Commission that a Use by Exception will be coming before
them presented by the Wayne Area Habitat for Humanity. Given their short window of construction
time, Wayne Habitat is asking for Use by Exception to build a townhouse on a
lot that has been donated to them.
Inspector Ellyson was asking the Commission for a special meeting to be
held on Monday, May 16 at 7:30 pm to hear the Use by Exception. Inspector Ellyson stated that at least five
members need to be present. Consensus
of the Commission was to set a public hearing for Monday, May 16 at 7:30 p.m.
Chair
Braun stated the next agenda item was the discussion of amending the Wayne
Municipal Code Section 90-10 Definitions, Section 90-144 Exceptions A-2
district, Section 90-354 Exceptions B-1 district, and Section 90-484 Exceptions
I-1 district all relating to kennels.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that this request comes before the Commission at the request of
City Administrator Lowell Johnson.
City
Administrator Lowell Johnson was present at the meeting to discuss this
issue. Administrator Johnson stated for
the Commission that there is a gentleman who has some dogs located at the last
property, on the east side, just before crossing the Logan Creek Bridge heading
south. This property owner has some
male and female dogs. They raise a litter either every year or every other
year. No one has complained about this
particular owner; however when Council passed the dog and cat limit of no more
than 4 dogs or cats per household, this property owner is now in violation of
the code. The code further states that
in order to have more than four, a kennel license must be obtained.
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Administrator
Johnson stated that what he had proposed before the Commission was fairly
simple. The language defines what a
kennel and boarding kennel is.
Administrator Johnson stated that he did not set a limit on the number
of dogs, as he felt the further out of town they were, the less one tends to
care about the number of dogs.
Commissioner
Miller questioned if this property owner had two acres. Administrator Johnson stated that he did not
set a limit on the number of acres.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that in the A-2, two acres is needed and this particular
property owner has 2.7 acres, approximately.
Commissioner
Ahmann questioned how the veterinary clinic would be classified, would they be
considered a boarding kennel, and if so are they licensed. Administrator Johnson stated that they would
be considered a boarding kennel and was unsure if they were licensed.
Chair
Braun asked for any further questions.
Commissioner
Miller questioned if this property owner was in violation if they would wait
another month.
Administrator
Johnson stated that he informed the Police Dispatchers to license the dogs, as
this process may take some time to complete.
Chair
Braun asked if it would be appropriate to add more than four cats, as well as,
more than four dogs to the language.
Commissioner
Melena questioned if someone has more than four dogs, irregardless of the
purpose, do they need a kennel license and if someone has one dog they intend
to use for breeding, do they need a license.
Inspector Ellyson stated that is how he would interpret the language.
Administrator
Johnson stated that the current code addresses one dog kept for breeding
purposes so that is the reason why he included it in the language.
Commissioner
Braun stated that if it is not a problem, she would like to see the word
"cat/cats" included wherever there is "dog/dogs".
Administrator
Johnson stated that there is a section of the code on animal welfare, and that
was also split into a section on dogs and one on cats.
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Inspector
Ellyson stated that within the language which identifies a Class 1, 2, or 3
feedlot; they identify animal units and chickens for instance takes 20 to equal
one cow. Inspector Ellyson was asking,
does two cats equal one dog or vise versa.
Administrator
Johnson noted that when Council was working on the ordinance last year, they
say one cat equals one dog.
Chair
Braun stated that the next item on the agenda was the discussion of amending
the Wayne Municipal Code by adding Article Seven, Division Six, Affordable
Housing Planned Unit Development.
Administrator
Johnson stated that he would give the Commission a broad concept as to why the
City is looking into such an idea. There has been some discussion over the last
few years regarding population trends and what is happening with the future
labor markets in Wayne.
The
concept presented by Administrator Johnson is the result of some discussions
with local builders. The goal of this
concept plan is either a target price per lot or a target price per mobile home
site. Administrator Johnson noted that
the legal signers of the concept plan is the City Council.
Administrator
Johnson explained that for example if a lot is for sale at $8,000 per lot and
you wanted to bring in a couple double wide manufactured homes and set them on
a basement or perimeter foundation; it would be similar to Cityside, only the
lots would be bigger and they would be owned not rented. It would need to be a perimeter
foundation/basement and not a chassis so that it would be taxed and have some
equity value as real estate.
Administrator
Johnson explained the Community Development Agency process and the Tax
Increment Financing process to the Commission.
Administrator Johnson further stated for the Commission that Woehler and
Wriedt were both interested in taking some of their trailer courts; Lage was
also interested in using some of his auction area; and Cityside is also
watching this process. This process
allows the developer to come and make a request for so many lots to be
developed. The concept is you set a
price and then work backwards from there.
The Council has seen the proposed concept but they have not discussed it
yet.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that a PUD (Planned Unit Development) already exists in the
municipal code and that the last one was for the Oaks Retirement area.
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Commissioner
Brenner questioned if someone could take advantage of the TIF process and this
as well. Administrator Johnson stated
that a developer could take advantage of both.
Inspector
Ellyson noted that he had not read the entire proposed concept written by
Administrator Johnson and compared it with the current PUD in the municipal
code. However, Inspector Ellyson
encouraged the Commission to do just that and identify what is written there
and what is written in the draft language prepared by Administrator Johnson.
Inspector
Ellyson noted that the city does not allow for developments within the city of
Wayne, unless the streets are paved.
Commissioner
Miller opined that he works within the housing industry and there is much
discussion about affordable housing.
There can be discussion about keeping the lot prices down and keeping
the cost of housing down, but the key always is that people do not have the
down-payment money. Commissioner Miller
opined that help is needed with the financing for these people.
Administrator
Johnson pointed out the three mobile home courts – Wriedts', Woehlers', and
Lages'. Administrator Johnson asked the Commission to look at the Lage property
and the proximity to the lagoon and the houses that are currently there. There
are those people who feel this is a really good opportunity there, if it is not
too close to the lagoon. Whatever
happens there would need to come before the Commission, as the land is
currently zoned Industrial and it is not located within the city limits. If anything starts moving in this area, the
Commission will need to ask themselves is this a place where housing will work
and will people buy lots.
Chair
Braun questioned if Lage's property were to be considered, would the city want
to annex the land. Administrator
Johnson stated the city would.
Chair
Braun asked for any further discussion, there being none, Chair Braun moved
onto the next discussion item regarding potential amendments to the Wayne
Municipal Code Zoning Districts B-1, B-2, and B-3.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that at the last meeting, general discussion did not focus on
any particular point, so the Commission was asked to think about and consider
and bring forward items they felt were conditions that should be applied to the
language.
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Chair
Braun opined that she did not write anything down specific, but that she had
been doing a lot of thinking on this issue and that she is still fifty – fifty
on the big box issue whether there should be something in the code that would set
forth the requirements of so many square feet, in this district, certain
percentage of brick. Chair Braun opined
that she did not know if it would be a benefit or a detriment to the
community.
Commissioner
Endicott opined that one needs to ask themselves what kind of community they
want to live in. What kind of retail do you want to bring into the community
and what kind of effect will that retail have on the community. Commissioner Endicott opined that is one
reason why something should be in place so that there is some kind of control
of what is going to happen within the community.
Chair
Braun opined that if they make things too restrictive within the two-mile
zoning jurisdiction, that the company will just build three miles out of town
where there is no county zoning.
Commissioner
Endicott questioned what the Commission can do so that they have the power
within the county or to have the county go along with them to make that
decision.
Commissioner
Brenner opined that the large retailer knows they will have some opposition and
that the retailer is here for dollars and can they make enough money if they
build in the area. There is a limit as
to how many loops can be jumped through, but that the Commission is foolish if
they do not put some criteria in the code to give them some limits to work
with. Commissioner Brenner opined that
it would be in the best interest of the city to have something in place.
Commissioner
Ahmann opined that the retail businesses are going to take a hit next summer
and it will take a lot of public relations work and planning when Main Street
is torn up all summer. Commissioner
Ahmann further opined that he is looking further down the road and wonders what
will happen with Highway 35. If his
information is correct, the highway will by-pass Wayne either north or south
within one or two miles. Commissioner
Ahmann opined that this might be another great deterrent to the retail business
and the way it currently exists right now.
Commissioner Ahmann posed the question do you not think the people in
the big retail are not on top of this thing right now, looking that if Highway
35 is going to be two miles north of Wayne, are they not looking at property
out there and get ahead of the game.
Commissioner Ahmann opined that if the highway by-passes, and if the
city restricts the business to so many square feet, that won't make any
difference to the retailer if it is in city limits. If the highway is going to
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be
two miles north or south, the retailer will not build in what is deemed the
downtown business section of Wayne.
Commissioner Ahmann opined that this discussion item ties in with the
issue of affordable housing.
Commissioner Ahmann opined why should the Commission be apprehensive
about doing something. Commissioner
Ahmann suggested moving forward on this discussion item and write some language
and present it to the City Council.
Commissioner
Miller questioned if an impact study is included, can they still keep the
retailer from coming into Wayne.
Inspector Ellyson stated that no they could not.
Commissioner
Endicott opined that in the information he has gathered, the retailers want an
impact study because it says in the studies, that if it is not appropriate for
the community, then the city could deny them.
Commissioner
Brenner noted that he thought the impact study was a means for the Council to
say no that the retailer could not come in; it was like a deal-breaker.
Commissioner
Miller opined if they cannot keep an adult bookstore out of town, how can they
keep a big box store out of town.
Inspector
Ellyson opined that by leaning more towards an impact study that could be more
of a municipal code issue rather than this side of the zoning.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that the zoning language expressly states if it is a legal use,
if you don't provide a place for it, then the use can go in a zoning area where
other similar uses are permitted. For
example, a retailer/grocer where those existing uses are located, the city
cannot restrict them based on size, but the city can provide a place that the
size is appropriate.
Commissioner
Endicott opined that generally when cities get sued over this, the city states
that their comprehensive plan did not want this type of retail and they are
just following their comprehensive plan which was approved by the public. Commissioner Endicott opined that from what
he has been reading, the comprehensive plan basically makes the ordinance
legal.
Commissioner
Brenner questioned if the city attorney's office should be looking at this as
well and guiding them.
Inspector
Ellyson stated for the Commission that the city attorneys were invited to the
meeting; however, they both had extenuating circumstances and could not
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make
the meeting, but that Attorney Connolly is planning on attending the June 6
meeting.
Chair
Braun questioned if Inspector Ellyson knew anyone in Columbus that he could
visit with, as she had noticed a new Super Wal-Mart had been built there and
the front of the store looked impressive.
Chair
Braun directed Inspector Ellyson to gather information from Columbus, Seward,
York, Hastings, Yankton, and Grand Island to see if these communities had any
conditions.
Commissioner
Endicott questioned within the immediate city limits how many places are there
that are at least ten acres. Inspector
Ellyson stated that there are possibly two places located near the new fire
hall. Any other areas would be located
directly out of the city limits.
Chair
Braun stated that once you get out of the city limits but within the two-mile
zoning jurisdiction, there are multiple places of ten acres or more.
Inspector
Ellyson noted that anything exterior of the corporate limits is zoned either
A-1 or A-2, except the Industrial Park and Inspector Ellyson thought retail is
not a permitted use in the Industrial zoning districts.
Commissioner
Herman opined that the way the zoning is set up currently, the Commission would
not need to change anything; there is not a place for them to build.
Inspector
Ellyson stated that there is some industrial exterior of the city limits.
Commissioner
Endicott opined that at least an impact study is needed, along with the 40,000
square foot requirement.
Commissioner
Brenner questioned does an impact study truly do anything in the end? If an impact study comes back bad for the
community and they do it anyway, the city needs to know for sure if they can do
that anyway.
Commissioner
Miller questioned if they set a limit on the square footage, would the retailer
have to come back for an exception to make it bigger, and then before they
could get an exception, an impact study would be required and if the impact
study came back in a negative way, is this where you can stop them?
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Inspector
Ellyson opined that this is one of the uses of the conditions for granting the
exception. Conditions are there and are placed on things that the Commission
and Council want them (the applicant) to do.
Chair
Braun questioned if this is allowed in a B-1, B-2, and B-3 zone, there are only
two potential areas where it would be allowed.
Inspector Ellyson stated that even those two areas within the city
limits are not zoned properly. Chair
Braun noted that retail is not a permitted use in the A-1 or A-2 zones, along
with the Industrial zones, which covers the two-mile zoning jurisdiction. So if a place is provided in the B-1, B-2,
and B-3 zone and a big box business needs ten acres to exist, then could the
city be challenged if they purposely put them in a B-1, B-2, and B-3 zone
because the city knew there was no place available for them.
Commissioner
Herman opined that the retailer could buy thirty houses, if it was worth it to
them.
Inspector
Ellyson noted for the Commission, that they do not need to create a marketable
place for them to build. The conditions
cannot be so stringent that it disallows the use.
Commissioner
Ahmann read an article related to the community of Bennington, Vermont
regarding conditions placed on large retail stores. Commissioner Ahmann opined that something needs to be presented
to the City Council or the discussion item should be dropped.
Inspector
Ellyson noted for the Commission that he would consider any and all information
from other communities regarding setting conditions for use by exceptions. Inspector Ellyson questioned if the
Commission would want this item to come before them as a discussion item one
more time before setting a public hearing.
Consensus of the Commission was to discuss the item one more time before
setting a public hearing. Inspector
Ellyson noted for the Commission that July 11 would probably be the next
available date that he could provide information to the Commission for
discussion.
Consensus
of the Commission was to place the large retail discussion item on the agenda
for the July meeting as an update.
Chair
Braun asked for any further discussion, there being none, motion made by
Commissioner Miller and seconded by Commissioner Melena to adjourn. Chair Braun stated the motion and second. All were in favor; motion carried
unanimously; meeting was adjourned.