Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
Monday, October 4, 2004
Chair Jack Hausmann called the regular meeting of the Wayne
Planning Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. on Monday, October 4, 2004, in the
Council Chambers of the Municipal Building.
Roll call was taken with the following members present: Don Endicott, Vicki Pick, Marie Mohr, Kyle
Nelson, Bill Reeg, Randy Brenner, Sharon Braun, Chair Jack Hausmann, and Chief
Inspector/Planner George Ellyson.
Absent: Darrell Miller.
Motion made by Commissioner Braun and seconded by
Commissioner Reeg to approve the minutes of the Monday, August 2, 2004 meeting
as presented. Chair Hausmann stated the
motion and second. All were in favor;
motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Miller arrived at 7:35 p.m.
Chair Hausmann stated that the order of the agenda items
would be changed.
Inspector Ellyson updated the Commission on the proposed
Chapter 90 Zoning amendments. A meeting
held last week with representatives of the Landlord Association, City Attorney,
Lowell Johnson, and himself, resulted in the outcome that more clarity needs to
be given to the proposed amendments.
Therefore nothing was placed in the agenda in regards to the proposed
amendments other than the update.
Inspector Ellyson stated that hopefully he will have the opportunity to
get the proposed changes updated and sent to the attorney for review and
another meeting held with the Landlord Association representatives before the
amendments are presented at a public hearing.
Chair Hausmann then moved onto the next agenda item, the
discussion and presentation regarding mobile home courts, presented by Robert
Woehler of Woehler Trailer Courts.
Robert Woehler, 1910 Centennial Road, was present to discuss
the moving permit ordinance specifically 2000-11.
BJ Woehler, 1910 Centennial Road, was present to discuss the
moving permit ordinance. His main issue
was establishing criteria for moving mobile homes into Wayne.
Chair Hausmann asked if Inspector Ellyson had any specific
questions. Inspector Ellyson questioned
what type of guidelines, as nothing was put in writing. Are they addressing the 1979 homes that were
built with HUD guidelines? What
verifies that those homes are still adequate, that they still meet the egress
standards, that they have smoke detectors, all of these things?
BJ Woehler stated that the life safety standards that are
addressed in the rental properties, they would be willing to accept having them
added to the trailers and addressed in an ordinance.
Inspector Ellyson asked about the electrical? BJ Woehler stated that the wiring was
changed in 1976.
Inspector Ellyson stated that it was at the discretion of
the Planning Commission as to whether or not they wish to re-evaluate it, look
at it or change it with criteria regarding the mobile home industry.
Chair Hausmann noted for the Commission that he had visited
with City Administrator Lowell Johnson regarding Woehler's request. Administrator Johnson was of the opinion
that something needs to be done with regards to the moving ordinance.
Chair Hausmann asked for any further comments or suggestions
on the agenda item. Motion made by
Commissioner Reeg and seconded by Commissioner Pick directing Inspector Ellyson
to work on revising the moving permit ordinance. Chair Hausmann stated the motion and second. All were in favor; motion carried
unanimously.
Chair Hausmann stated the next agenda item was the
discussion of amending the Wayne Municipal Code, specifically those sections
pertaining to the permitted accessory uses and structures.
Inspector Ellyson stated that the City Administrator has
asked the Commission to look into the accessory use language within the zoning
regulations. At the July meeting, Draft
1 was presented to the Commission. As a
result of discussion at that meeting, Inspector Ellyson stated that he was
directed to revise the language pertaining to accessory uses and
structures. Enclosed with the
Commission's packet was Draft 1a which included strikeouts (deletions) and bolding
(additions).
Inspector Ellyson stated he had some additional information
that he wanted the Commission to review.
A drawing was also provided with regards to Section 90-703 Accessory
Uses subparagraph c – vehicle access.
Inspector Ellyson noted for the Commission that over the years he has
been with the city, he has been able to get property owners to set their
garages, which are located in the rear of their property and access from the
alley, to set them perpendicular to the alley a minimum of twenty feet from the
alley. This would/will allow for alleys
to be cleaned and maintained easier, as the vehicles will be parked on the
owners' property rather than butting out into the alley. The other change was with respect to
accessory structure size. The language
was revised to say that collectively all existing and proposed structures,
including the primary and all accessory structures, do not exceed 50% of the
entire lot area and/or collectively all the accessory structures do not exceed
a total of 960 square feet.
Chair Hausmann asked for any further comments and/or
discussion regarding accessory uses and structures. Inspector Ellyson stated that the draft before the Commission is
based on suggested language from Blair and Hastings. Commissioner Braun questioned how big a three-car garage would
be. Inspector Ellyson noted that in the
drawing he depicted a three-car garage being 36x26 or 936 square feet. That combined total would include the little
7x10 storage sheds or any other accessory structures that may be on the lot
itself. The combination of structures
would take into account those plus any proposed structures.
Inspector Ellyson stated that the minimum lot size in an R-1
zone is 7,000 square feet, which would be a lot 70x100. Earlier language included a target value of
800 square feet on accessory structures, which met with some resistance. The number is somewhat arbitrary, but it is
a place to start.
Commissioner Braun questioned if that would be the same for
an R-2 and R-3? Inspector Ellyson
stated that the minimum lot size area is smaller.
Chair Hausmann opined that generally that is the area where
you would find more multi-family units and three-car garages per structure.
Commissioner Braun opined that she would like the percentage
changed to 60 percent on a lot area versus 50 percent. It gives the property owners more
flexibility.
Inspector Ellyson stated that as a planner, one thing you
need to keep in mind is the impervious areas roofs create. In other words, rainfall does not penetrate
shingles, and one thing to consider and think about is that as you develop more
roof area over a lawn or yard, you tend to increase runoff but you also
increase the velocity of that runoff.
Chair Hausmann opined that some of the discussion taking
place could be brought up at the public hearing.
Commissioner Endicott questioned how big is a 3,700 square
foot house? Inspector Ellyson stated
that it is a good size home.
Commissioner Endicott opined who would put a 3,700 square foot home on a
70x175 lot. Really it is kind of a mute
point. You have already exceeded what
someone would put on the lot with the 50 percent figure. Inspector Ellyson stated it is pretty close
to accurate.
Commissioner Endicott asked if the 50 percent would be
workable. Inspector Ellyson stated that
is a figure pretty consistent with other communities.
Inspector Ellyson stated that the previous language asked
that the attached accessory structures be included. The revised language omits the attached accessory structures.
Paul Lindner, 601 Westwood, questioned if someone owned
three lots and wanted to place a garage on one of the lots. Inspector Ellyson stated that once you place
the garage on its own legal description, it becomes the primary structure and
then it is regulated by the setbacks of the parent district. Mr. Lindner questioned if you have three
lots and a house located on three lots, you can have a bigger garage. Inspector Ellyson stated that the maximum
size of the garage would be 960 square feet.
Mr. Lindner and Inspector Ellyson discussed one if his particular lots
that he owns with respect to the proposed language of accessory structures.
Chair Hausmann stated that he would entertain a motion.
Paul Campbell, of Wayne, questioned what would happen to the
garages already built. Inspector Ellyson
stated that nothing would happen. They
would be considered legal non-conforming.
Motion made by Commissioner Miller and seconded by
Commissioner Nelson to establish a public hearing regarding the amending of the
Wayne Municipal Code, specifically those sections pertaining to the permitted
accessory uses and structures for the November meeting. Chair Hausmann stated the motion and
second. All were in favor; motion carried
unanimously.
Chair Hausmann stated the next item on the agenda is the
discussion of amending the retail store language, with a presentation by
Commissioner Don Endicott.
Commissioner Endicott noted for the Commission that the
contacts with his legal friends did not have any information for him. Commissioner Endicott spoke with a friend of
his from Massachusetts. During that
conversation, Endicott's friend opined that the Commission is headed down the
right path with the language that has been preliminary drafted. Commissioner Endicott's friend opined that
there are other issues that cannot be addressed with the ordinance. This person is very willing to work with
Endicott and the Commission to look at the city's ordinance and proposed
language, and advise as to what they are doing right or wrong. Some other suggestions were made, such as
addressing/establishing a relationship with the county, as well as a regional
type relationship with other communities.
Commissioner Endicott opined that he should have a short
list, possibly by December as to whether or not Wayne would be on that
list. The 100,000 square foot stores,
such as those in Seward, will probably be the future. They will probably announce within the next few days that an
additional forty will be built.
Commissioner Endicott stated that he will be back in touch with his
friend and will be ordering his book that gives sample ordinances as to how to
write them rather than trying to re-invent the wheel. Endicott's friend would also be willing to review any ordinances
that the city would write and make suggestions from those submitted and what
direction the city should go.
Commissioner Reeg questioned what type of work this person
does for a living.
Commissioner Endicott stated that he is a consultant, but
that the majority of his life is spent preventing urban sprawl such as the
Wal-Mart's, K-Mart's, the Home Depots.
This consultant stated that what the city is doing is right and even if
the city's name is not on the short list, that the city should not stop going
in the direction they are. One example
the consultant gave us was in Mission, Kansas, one of the stipulations of the
ordinance they had drafted stated that the parking had to be located in the
rear of the building and that the parking had to be covered.
Commissioner Endicott stated that he had spoken with County
Commissioner Kevin Wurdeman regarding zoning in the county. Kelvin indicated that it might be hard
because of some people in the ag area.
Commissioner Endicott asked why some of the ag people are against zoning
and they indicated they did not want anymore government regulation.
Commissioner Endicott stated for the Commission that he
would continue to gather information from the consultant and from Mission,
Kansas in their ordinance that was passed.
Commissioner Endicott opined that the Commission should
pursue visiting with the County and try to visit with some of the area
community business people.
Chair Hausmann asked that Commissioner Endicott continue to
pursue gathering information regarding retail store language.
There being no further business, motion made by Commissioner
Braun and seconded by Commissioner Pick to adjourn the meeting. Chair Hausmann stated the motion and
second. All were in favor; motion carried
unanimously.